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June 21, 2017, 11:51:01 AM
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Here we go
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/segwit2x-is-a-go-80-of-bitcoin-network-signals-for-upgrade/
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June 21, 2017, 12:31:57 PM
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No, it doesn't.

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June 21, 2017, 12:47:08 PM
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Is the SegWit coming or what? Everyone says different things
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June 21, 2017, 12:52:49 PM
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No, it doesn't.



Look at the 24-hour totals... signalling only began on Monday. 79.17% in last 24 hours; they are basing the numbers on hashing power committed, which will eventually result in enough blocks.



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June 21, 2017, 12:55:54 PM
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Is the SegWit coming or what? Everyone says different things
Yes it is locked in. The poster above you is a known troll trying to spread FUD.

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June 21, 2017, 01:04:19 PM
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Yes it is locked in.

No, it doesn't.

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June 21, 2017, 02:11:37 PM
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It's not "locked in". Over 80% of miners are signalling that they'll signal for segwit.

We won't know for sure for at least one month. The BTC1 segwit2x software is supposed to be released on 7/21, and that's when we'll see who actually signals for segwit.
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June 22, 2017, 03:57:17 AM
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It's not "locked in". Over 80% of miners are signalling that they'll signal for segwit.

We won't know for sure for at least one month. The BTC1 segwit2x software is supposed to be released on 7/21, and that's when we'll see who actually signals for segwit.
Either way it is good news that many are signalling segwit2x. According to coindance.com 35.2% is signalling segwit2X this week and is second with Emergent Consensus in the lead but looking at the last 144 blocks which are made today, most are signalling segwit2X and if this continues it might catch up with Emergent Consensus. For now just be updated on the news and whatever proposal is implemented, I hope it is for the better of bitcoin.
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June 22, 2017, 06:43:56 AM
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We are now at 86,1% :-)
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June 22, 2017, 06:52:50 AM
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We are now at 86,1% :-)
Even if we hit 100% right now, at this point this doesn't say much at all. It could take a good 3 months before the hard fork finally takes place, so it will require a good level of patience from everyone.

It's nothing more than a tiny step forward, and that's really it. That explains why the market hasn't really bumped much even though this can be seen as very important news.

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June 22, 2017, 07:28:33 AM
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Is the SegWit coming or what? Everyone says different things

probably yes, but it's tricky, because it's a combination of segwith which require 95% and 2mb hard fork, and from my understanding some miners don't like that the hard fork it's done after the activation in segwit2x...

then you have the UASF users that don't like miners, and don't like the fact that miners are agianst the second part of activation of segwit2x, the hard fork of 2mb, than the core team which is not pro all this

ah soap opera indeed

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June 22, 2017, 10:29:43 AM
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Is the SegWit coming or what? Everyone says different things

probably yes, but it's tricky, because it's a combination of segwith which require 95% and 2mb hard fork, and from my understanding some miners don't like that the hard fork it's done after the activation in segwit2x...

then you have the UASF users that don't like miners, and don't like the fact that miners are agianst the second part of activation of segwit2x, the hard fork of 2mb, than the core team which is not pro all this

ah soap opera indded



Again bitcoin core could just block the hardfork yet correct?

This compromise will just remove the segregated witness roadblock.

I just can't see core rolling over on this and giving all this future power

On development to the miners. Cave from their view on decentralization and

If they believe themselves, still believe a hard fork is dangerous and impractical.

It will likely be another year of FUD, if they can't even agree to meet in person.

Imho. Damn well hope I'm dead wrong.

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June 22, 2017, 11:08:03 AM
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June 22, 2017, 05:24:01 PM
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Is the SegWit coming or what? Everyone says different things

probably yes, but it's tricky, because it's a combination of segwith which require 95% and 2mb hard fork, and from my understanding some miners don't like that the hard fork it's done after the activation in segwit2x...

then you have the UASF users that don't like miners, and don't like the fact that miners are agianst the second part of activation of segwit2x, the hard fork of 2mb, than the core team which is not pro all this

ah soap opera indded



Again bitcoin core could just block the hardfork yet correct?

This compromise will just remove the segregated witness roadblock.

I just can't see core rolling over on this and giving all this future power

On development to the miners. Cave from their view on decentralization and

If they believe themselves, still believe a hard fork is dangerous and impractical.

It will likely be another year of FUD, if they can't even agree to meet in person.

Imho. Damn well hope I'm dead wrong.

While this appears to be a significant compromise from the miners (it is - they are giving in to the segwit pressure), this is really nothing more than trying to put in the place the Hong Kong agreement that was worked out 18 months ago and, had it been followed in good faith, would be COMPLETELY activated at this point.

As soon as BTC1 is released, the miners will run it, and immediately signal support for SW2X; it will only be a short matter of time after that that SW itself will fully activate (see https://medium.com/@jimmysong/segwit2x-what-you-need-to-know-b747e6326266).

It would be really sad if after all this Core still doesn't work with what is clearly most of the community.  90%+ of mining power as well as all the other Bitcoin company signatories of the New York Agreement.

BTC1 will move ahead with implementing the block size increase, and then it would be up to Core to effect the network split by not working on it.  So yes, core could block the 2MB blocksize, but they would definitely be in the minority at that point.  And also be clearly demonstrating their bad faith and failure to support much (most?) of the Bitcoin community.



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June 22, 2017, 06:30:02 PM
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...miners are signalling that they'll signal...
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June 22, 2017, 07:13:56 PM
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We are now at 86,1% :-)

I don't know, how could they said it already 86,1%? As I have seen at https://coin.dance/blocks and :
- segwit2x at 42,6%
- emergent consensus 41,7%
- segregated witness 33.8%
am I misunderstand about it? Or segwit2x + emergent consensus = 84,3% ?
Or anyone could mention a better site to watch over this consensus, thanks.
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June 22, 2017, 07:33:11 PM
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No it's not 80%. It's 42% signaling and 38% full protocol compatibility. They overlap

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June 22, 2017, 07:45:32 PM
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We are now at 86,1% :-)

I don't know, how could they said it already 86,1%? As I have seen at https://coin.dance/blocks and :
- segwit2x at 42,6%
- emergent consensus 41,7%
- segregated witness 33.8%
am I misunderstand about it? Or segwit2x + emergent consensus = 84,3% ?
Or anyone could mention a better site to watch over this consensus, thanks.

It's actually 87.5% of blocks mined today; you have to look at the little line on coin.dance; the blue bar is of the last 1000 blocks.  Signalling only began on Monday, but the current rate is about 87.5%.

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June 22, 2017, 08:49:49 PM
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It's actually 87.5% of blocks mined today; you have to look at the little line on coin.dance; the blue bar is of the last 1000 blocks.  Signalling only began on Monday, but the current rate is about 87.5%.

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June 22, 2017, 10:36:40 PM
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Either way the slow rise and the lack of protests on high mean that things will be fine.  There were some people that thought there were would be them and their orphaned wallet balance left to roast in the sun, but it can't be smoother than this and those that did have the arguments have just gone to the corner to pout.

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